Additional runtime functions and classes

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:08 am

Hi,

since we now have a X# runtime, I would suggest to add some functions and classes to it that are not specific to VO or Vulcan, but that will be common to all X# installations.

IMHO such a library has several advantages:

it helps user to work faster because they can build on added functionality
it makes the distribution of some samples easier
it goes a step further over the VO runtime

Such code could be divided in 3 areas:

general functions
WinForms enhancements and classes
WPF enhancements and classes

Samples for the first could be functions like CreateDelegateFromPtr(), IsProperty(), FirstIndex(), LastIndex(), Isxxx() functions, classes like BindableBase, ExpandoBase, extended Exception classes and many more.

Base classes and functionality could be particularly important for WinForms and WPF classes, like classes that implement name based binding, enhance controls to add pictures or other functionality we know from VO.

Of course, I'm willing to contribute to this project, but the most important thing is IMHO that it will become a part of the X# distribution so anyone using X# can be sure to have this code.

I know that there is a lot of code already around that everyone can use, but it needs always time and knowledge to search and adapt such code, and to integrate it - instead of simple using it and to be sure about the quality of it.

Wolfgang

lumberjack · Post by **lumberjack** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:53 am

Hi Wolfgang,

wriedmann wrote:I would suggest to add some functions and classes to it that are not specific to VO or Vulcan, but that will be common to all X# installations.

I cannot agree more than 101% with this. Robert and team, I believe have given us 1 of the most powerful tools in the .NET world. It would be a small contribution if each of us can just add one little new into the untapped VOID that exist.

it goes a step further over the VO runtime

This makes me think of Star Trek

Space: the final frontier. These are the voyages of the starship Enterprise. Its continuing mission: to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life and new civilizations, to boldly go where no [one|man] has gone before.

Lets make X# boldly go where no other software has gone before.

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FUNCTION MakeXsTalk(oUniverse AS Universe[]) AS Talk
  REPEAT
    FOREACH Universe IN oUniverse
      MakeXSTalk(<Universe>{Universe})
    NEXT
  UNTIL oUniverse:Talk  == XS:Talk
RETURN XS:Talk

I'm willing to contribute to this project with the above code as VSV (VISION/STRUGGLE/VICTORY).

Just my 2c on the matter.

ic2 · Post by **ic2** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:20 am

Hello Johan,

You mean "Star Trek"....

Dick

lumberjack · Post by **lumberjack** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:46 am

Hi Dick,

ic2 wrote:Hello Johan,
You mean "Star Trek"....

Sorry, at least you have taken known to be known where it was previously known to be unknown.

FFF · Post by **FFF** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:48 am

wriedmann wrote:Base classes and functionality could be particularly important for WinForms and WPF classes, like classes that implement name based binding, enhance controls to add pictures or other functionality we know from VO....
I know that there is a lot of code already around that everyone can use, but it needs always time and knowledge to search and adapt such code, and to integrate it - instead of simple using it and to be sure about the quality of it.

+10 !!

Karl
(probably not "providing" but grateful "using")

TerryB1 · Post by **TerryB1** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:00 am

Hi Wolfgang and all

Yes - I quite agree. I'd go further and say that it was essential. It is the way forward and the way to attract new users. The capabilities added should feature strongly in any marketing drive.

Terry

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:18 am

Hello all,

so the only thing we need to see it was Robert and his team will say about this.

IMHO the best thing would be to add a new DLL (or better 3 DLLs) to the sources and the Github project, and people willing to contribute can then contribute.
Since the team itself is very busy, the efforts should be divided to the community.

Wolfgang

robert · Post by **robert** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:23 am

Guys,

We can add a new project to our github repo and make one of you guys the moderator.

Then everybody can fork the project and start adding things. When you think you have something useful then send a pull request and the moderator can merge things.

Of course you can also start your own Github project if you want.

Robert

wriedmann · Post by **wriedmann** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:46 am

Hi Robert,
IMHO the best option would be a part of your project with another moderator.
But you should define the rules, the names and the namespace, and the documentation must be part of the X# documentation.
And of course the license must be the same as for your runtime libraries.
Wolfgang

lumberjack · Post by **lumberjack** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 pm

wriedmann wrote:Hi Robert,
IMHO the best option would be a part of your project with another moderator.

I second Wolfgang to be the moderator

And of course the license must be the same as for your run-time libraries.

I agree, the status quo can remain for the moment.

I have an idea, if we can make FOX really lucrative, how about everybody gaining some financial benefit based on his/her/team's contribution?

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My 2c useless information,

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